Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Parts 5B and 5C
Joe Hinman’s fifth argument for the existence of Jesus based on external evidence is presented in two sections of his post on the Web of Historicity: 5B. Big Web of Historicity 5C. Jesus Myth Theory Cannot Account for the Web The fifth argument for the existence of Jesus can be summarized in terms of a … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Parts 5B and 5C
Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 5A: Various Points
Some of Hinman’s discussions about his five principles of historical investigation provide needed clarification of a principle, and some of his discussions fail to provide clarification of the relevant principle. But even when Hinman fails to clarify one of his general principles of historical investigation, he often makes some significant or interesting points. I will … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 5A: Various Points
Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 5A: Five Principles
Joe Hinman’s fifth argument for the existence of Jesus is presented in three sections: 5A. Historical Methods 5B. Big Web of Historicity 5C. Jesus Myth Theory Cannot Account for the Web I will comment on, and raise objections to, points in each of these three sections, but this post will only cover part of the … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 5A: Five Principles
Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 4
QUESTION 1: What is Hinman’s Central Claim about Josephus? There are two famous passages in a book by the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus that appear to refer to Jesus. Joe Hinman wants to focus on the “brother passage”, the passage in Antiquities that mentions a person named “James” and refers to him as “the brother of Jesus … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 4
Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Post on Part 4 Coming Soon
I have been working on understanding and evaluating Joe Hinman’s fourth argument for the existence of Jesus, and I believe my post on this subject will be ready to publish later this week. This argument is based on alleged references to Jesus found in a book by the Jewish historian Josephus, particularly the “brother passage”, … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Post on Part 4 Coming Soon
Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 3
Question 1: What are Hinman’s Central Claims about Polycarp? As with his discussion about the external evidence of Papias, Hinman begins his discussion of Polycarp with some strong claims: III. Polycarp: Knew the Apostle John and studied with him. He speaks of where the apostle sat when they studied together. The first sentence is lacking a subject. But … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 3
Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Post on Part #3 Coming Soon
I am working on Part 3 of this series of posts about external evidence for the existence of Jesus. Part 3 will focus on analysis and evaluation of Joe Hinman’s third argument for the existence of Jesus, which is based on historical claims about Polycarp. I have written the opening section of Part 3, and … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Post on Part #3 Coming Soon
Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 2
======================== NOTE: This post is now complete, as of 11:25 pm pacific time on Saturday, July 2, 2016. ======================== The first sentence of Joe Hinman’s argument from the external evidence of Papias makes a very dubious claim: Papias was the student of the Apostle John. By this, Hinman means that Papias had personal, face-to-face conversations … Debate: External Evidence for Jesus – Part 2
Debate: The External Evidence for Jesus – Part 1
Joe Hinman’s first argument for the existence of Jesus is based on references to Jesus in the Talmud: We know Jesus was in the Talmud and that is a fact admitted by Rabbis. Some references use his name (Yeshua) some use code words such as “such a one” or “Panthera”. The reason codes are used, … Debate: The External Evidence for Jesus – Part 1
The Debate about Jesus has Begun
The debate between me and Joe Hinman about the existence of Jesus has begun. We are focusing on just the external (non-biblical) evidence. Joe has published his positive case for the claim that: …the external (not in Bible) evidence is strong enough to warrant belief in Jesus’ historicity. Here is a link to Joe’s initial … The Debate about Jesus has Begun