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APPENDIX: Ehrman / Goicoechea Series: Jacob Berman Interviews Ehrman on “Love Thy Stranger”

PREVIOUSLY: EHRMAN / GOICOECHEA BLOG SERIES LANDING PAGE For the most part, in this series I have left alone the second half of Ehrman’s book and Goicoechea’s last chapter on Paul, so if the reader is interested those are the places to go next. Here is Jacon Berman of History Valley Podcast interviewing Ehrman on APPENDIX: Ehrman / Goicoechea Series: Jacob Berman Interviews Ehrman on “Love Thy Stranger”

(BLOG SERIES INDEX) Agape: Bart Ehrman and David Goicoechea in Conversation

This blog series looks at Bart Ehrman and David Goicoechea on the central concept of Agape (love/self-sacrifice/altruism), typified by Jesus dying to save his enemies. The Posts: Bart Ehrman on the Absence of Atonement in Luke-Acts Ehrman on Jesus’ Revolutionary Ethics Bart Ehrman and did Jesus Found Modern Morality? New Blog Series: A New Christian (BLOG SERIES INDEX) Agape: Bart Ehrman and David Goicoechea in Conversation

(Blog Series Conclusion) The Servant Model: A Contrite Heart Pays What a Sacrifice Cannot with Ehrman and Goicoechea

Ehrman notes the peculiarity of Luke-Acts is that it does not have the doctrine of substitutionary atonement, but rather repentance and forgiveness (e.g., the soldier at the cross declares Jesus innocent; The destruction of the temple is seen as God’s punishment for the Jewish elite orchestrating Jesus’ death; etc.).  Ehrman figures Mark has substitutionary atonement (Blog Series Conclusion) The Servant Model: A Contrite Heart Pays What a Sacrifice Cannot with Ehrman and Goicoechea

Ehrman on Atonement vs Forgiveness

Ehrman draws a helpful distinction between the traditional view of Jesus dying on the cross as atonement vs the forgiving dying Jesus and Stephen of Luke-Acts where no payment to God is needed or implied. The argument is the historical Jesus taught forgiveness, and his disciples changed the message to atonement when they thought they Ehrman on Atonement vs Forgiveness