Afterword: Reflections On The Christ Myth Theory With John Loftus
We count 30 rebel ships, lord Vader, but they are so small they’re evading our turbo lasers.
We’ll have to destroy them ship to ship. Get the crews to their fighters.
I certainly don’t lump in mythicists in with lunacies like flat earthers and and Young Earth Creationists. The theory makes a lot of sense: Jesus was a Jewish incarnation of the dying/rising God mytheme who was initially never thought to be on earth, but was later placed in history in parables mostly birthed out of haggadic midrash/mimesis imitation of the Hebrew Scriptures and Greek literature. Loftus comments about his journey to mythicism:
- I have resisted taking a stand on Jesus Mythicism for the same reasons. “At best Jesus was a failed apocalyptic prophet.” Halfway position. Not so sanguine now. I have since changed my mind. For a few years I embraced agnosticism. I have now established myself enough to take a stand on this issue. At what point can we say all traces of any real Jesus are gone, and that they’re gone because he never existed as a real person in the first place? We have to work with what we have, not what we hope will be discovered. What we can conclude is that whatever traces of a human being we might find behind the ancient tales of Jesus, at best they are indistinguishable from him not existing at all. Any real Jesus is therefore an unnecessary figure we can do without. That’s good enough when it comes to god and science. It’s good enough here. see: https://www.debunking-christianity.com/2021/07/my-talk-at-gcrr-e-conference-on.html
What I’ve tried to show in previous posts is that while this certainly makes sense at a macro level, when you get in the trenches and really test the mythicism hypothesis verse by verse it is much less probable than the historicist claim that Jesus was a real person. I really enjoyed vetting this question, and do click through on the blog post below if you want to see the path I took: